Comments on: The Sacred Shroud https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2017/03/the-sacred-shroud Tue, 29 Jan 2019 14:15:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.4 By: Anonymous https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2017/03/the-sacred-shroud#comment-238 Fri, 20 Jul 2018 01:39:56 +0000 https://blog.smallpage.online/2017/03/10/the-sacred-shroud/#comment-238 ^I personally wouldn't venerate the shroud, because I do not want to venerate something that is not of God.

I also think that anyone can claim science to back them up nowadays, or pay off scientists, or leave out info, or misrepresent data, etc (or there can be 'signs and miracles to deceive even the elect'-as Christ warns, etc).

]]> By: Anonymous https://catalog.obitel-minsk.com/blog/2017/03/the-sacred-shroud#comment-237 Fri, 20 Jul 2018 01:35:56 +0000 https://blog.smallpage.online/2017/03/10/the-sacred-shroud/#comment-237 As an Orthodox Christian, I don't think we need to believe in the shroud as authentic. In fact, I don't believe it is. It is not spoken of in any early sources, by anyone.
What we do have a tradition of is the Icon Not Made By Hands (aka, the Holy Napkin). But the shroud is not that Icon, because the Holy Napkin was a pre-Passion, pre-Crucifixion, pre-Crucifixion image of Christ that was simply of His Countenance. And it was sent to King Agbar of Edessa. The shroud on the other hand is supposed to be a post-Passion, post-Crucifixion image of the full body of Christ.
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Why the shroud tradition differs from the historical accounts:

1. In the Gospel we read that Christ was buried "in the manner of the Jews." So: not buried bloody and naked in a single shoud. Instead, a body was covered in oil and then washed.

2. St. John speaks of Christ being wrapped in strips of linen (rather than a single shroud) with about 100 pounds of myrrh, aloes, spices. And we know the Myrrhbearers attempted to come later with more myrrh, to "anoint him."

3. Some nowadays speculate the spices were probably spread out on the stone, as a bed, to prevent the smell, but from what we read in the Gospel about St. Joseph and also about the latter intention of the Myrrhbearers: the spices were used in anointing the body or by being wrapped up with the linen. That spices were wrapped up with the linen seems to be implied with the phrasing: "bound it in fine linen with the [100 pounds of] spices.", rather than a shroud.

4. Though a supposed burial shroud of Constantinople is mentioned in a historical record (but not by Orthodox), it is said to have been seperated into pieces and given to many (sort of like how the True Cross of Christ, we made into pieces to give to many).

5. The existence of the shroud of Turin is not mentioned by any ancient Orthodox accounts.

6. If there was really a shroud that captured the moment of the resurrection, it would have been the most popular relic of the ancient Church, as much as the True Cross. That alone dismisses it.

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